Episodes

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May 21, 2025

What a parenting expert (and toddlers) can teach PMs about product engagement | Julie King

Julie King is a renowned parenting expert, author, and workshop leader who has dedicated her career to helping parents communicate more effectively with their children. She is the co-author of two bestselling books: "How to Talk So Little Kids Will Listen” and "How to Talk When Kids Won't Listen”. Julie joined this episode to discuss: The trick to get kids to leave the park (and your users to retain) The secret framing solution for showing kids (and users) their progress The way to ask some...
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April 30, 2025

What growth teams can learn from an expert dog trainer | Mac Namara, Dog Trainer

Mac Namara is an expert dog trainer who specializes in positive reinforcement techniques. She runs Puppy Prep, a company designed to help new dog owners set their puppies up for success from day one through science-based training methods. In our conversation, we explore: Why the speed of reinforcement (every 6 seconds!) is critical for behavior change How to train in short, focused bursts rather than lengthy sessions The importance of environment design over willpower or personality traits ...
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April 6, 2025

What Noom can teach product teams about behavior change and retention | Christine May (Behavioral Scientist & Advisor, Ex-Noom)

Christine May helped spearhead behavioral science at Noom, shaping it into an engine for user segmentation and accountability. As their former Head of Behavioral Science, she championed Noom’s “big picture” motivation model—tying everyday habits to goals—and played a role in scaling one-on-one coaching into a digital system for millions. Now, Christine helps consumer tech startups build habit-forming experiences rooted in evidence-based psychology. In our conversation, we explore: The boo...
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March 5, 2025

What an orchestra conductor can teach managers about building world-class teams | Marin Alsop (Conductor)

Marin Alsop is a world-renowned conductor and the first woman to lead major orchestras internationally. The subject of the Emmy-nominated documentary "The Conductor” and formerly Music Director of the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra, she’s Chief Conductor of the ORF Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra and the Ravinia Festival, and Principal Guest Conductor of the Philharmonia Orchestra and the Philadelphia Orchestra. She has recorded 200+ titles and is the only conductor to receive a MacArthur Fellowsh...
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Feb. 16, 2025

What a world-renowned magician can teach product and growth teams | David Gerard (Magician & Mentalist)

David Gerard is one of Silicon Valley's most sought-after magicians and mentalists, performing over 90 shows annually for Fortune 500 companies and tech industry leaders. Before pursuing magic full-time, David spent 12 years in tech, starting at Google where he worked on flagship products including YouTube, AdWords, and Google Play, before leading growth and marketing initiatives at Discord and Aalto. Now, David combines his expertise in product growth with his mastery of psychological principle...
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Feb. 2, 2025

What product teams can learn from the author of Ender’s Game | Orson Scott Card, Author

Orson Scott Card is the author of Ender’s Game, one of the most influential science fiction novels ever written, and its sequel Speaker for the Dead, among other bestselling works. Ender’s Game is widely read in schools across the US and has been included in some educational curricula. In our conversation, we explore: His approach to creating page-turners: Why telling users what's coming beats clever "hooks" His method of ensuring the reader understands his writing (great for design t...
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Jan. 19, 2025

What a former Booking.com product leader says about testing | Kristina Gibson (Director of Product, Booking.com)

Kristina Gibson most recently was the CPO at Dott, accelerating their growth to over 100M rides annually. She led the merger with TIER to form Europe’s largest e-bike and scooter operator. She is a former Director of Product at Booking.com, where she pioneered user growth strategy across global markets. As an early product leader at Lyft, she architected the company's expansion into new cities and innovative verticals. At Eventbrite, Kristina transformed the business from a US-only operation t...
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Jan. 5, 2025

What pricing teams can learn from a top winemaker | Dan Petroski (Founder, Massican)

Dan Petroski is the founder and winemaker of Massican Wines. Massican was recently acquired by Gallo and is the only solely white wine producer in Napa Valley—a region famed for reds. Dan is known as a world-class marketer, combining storytelling, positioning and distribution insights to make Massican what it is today. In our conversation, we discuss: The theory of pricing (and the sweet spot in wine pricing) Why you should build your distribution channel before the product The key to buildin...
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Dec. 22, 2024

What growth teams can learn from game designers | Joel Burgess & Dan Vader (Grindstone)

Joel Burgess, co-founder of Soft Rains, and Dan Vader, Creative Director at Capybara Games, are the minds behind Grindstone, one of the most acclaimed indie puzzle games in recent years. Joel has worked on iconic titles like Watch Dogs: Legion and Skyrim. Dan, a long-time creative force at Capybara, has shaped the studio’s reputation with beloved games like Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP. Together, Joel and Dan bring a fresh perspective on game design, combining narrative depth with challeng...
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Dec. 8, 2024

What design teams can learn from Headspace | Cal Thompson (VP of Product Design & Research, Headspace)

Cal Thompson is the VP of Product Design & Research at Headspace, where they lead a team dedicated to creating user-centered designs that drive real-world impact. Their focus is to combine design practices with rigorous research to help users achieve their meditation goals. Before Headspace, Cal served as a Design Director at Fjord San Francisco. In this episode, we explore: What key metric Headspace measures for active use The small feature change that increased engagement The...
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April 5, 2022

How Does Match Make Dating Easier?

What are the most common mistakes people make looking for love online - and how do apps try to solve them? In this episode, host Kristen Berman talks with Jin Chua and Matt Gray, a pair of product leaders working at Match, one of the largest dating platforms in the US. They both share fundamental product design decisions to increase engagement between users, as well as the company’s philosophy on attraction and the hard work from their team of dating experts giving super useful insight. Listen a...
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March 22, 2022

How Did Lyft Change The Way We Ride?

Let’s take a ride into some of the behavioral principles that made Lyft a trustworthy transportation solution for millions. In this episode, host Kristen Berman is joined by the almighty Kira Wampler. Kira has had a wildly incredible career launching and growing dozens of products. We talk about her time at Lyft: diving into the brand’s core philosophy of “treating better” and how rating systems and incentives took Lyft into a more human approach. We also discuss her current efforts at Redesign ...
Feb. 15, 2022

Coming Next Week: The Science of Change Is Back

Next week, behavioral scientist and co-founder of Irrational Labs Kristen Berman returns. This time, she’s sitting down with even more product pioneers and thought leaders from your favorite apps. You’ll hear conversations with guests like former Netflix product head Gibson Biddle as Kristen gets to the bottom of binge-watching. Listen to marketing powerhouse Kira Wampler breaking down how Lyft got us to ride in cars with strangers. VP of Webflow and former product leader at Airbnb explains h...